Infamy and fame sticking with you?

**Erebus2** · Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:18 am

Epithet :

Mortal Coil

Guild :

Sentinel Syndicate

Jewels :

1,017,000

Rank :

A-Rank

Race :

Zombie

Experience :

251,750

Reputation :

7,700

Class :

Spellhowler

Strength :

90

Speed :

21

Constitution :

113

Endurance :

62

Intelligence :

1

Mana :

2,625

In regards to guildless mages and mages who want to switch side I think they should be able, or rather forced, to keep whatever infamy or fame they had going in.

If you do bad things, people can't just pretend that never happened. However, you can work hard to surpass your infamy with righteousness. Likewise, if a valiant hero turns bad he should be able to use his fame to rally people up or something and slaughter if he so chooses just because that's where he wants to go as a character.

That my friends, is good plot. but the current rules break that scenario from ever occurring.

For guildless mages I think they should be able to build either fame or infamy at the same time and therefore if they have high in both calibers it'll open 'real' neutral doors story-wise. It makes more sense to double-lap fame and infamy than to take it away and deprive someone of fame or infamy in general. Because currently, losing it instead of building it keeps Guildless mages from achieving a big name in the world unless they go one way or another.

If you ask me, I think this should be acknowledged to some degree as I was pondering it myself and just found it better for story and system continuity all together. What if you're S-rank with only 400 fame because you did all bad and good jobs and instead of growing off it you had to clear your name and didn't get anything back?? As we all know, you can't take quests you already took. Therefore, this is breaking the fame system if you ever wish to switch sides. Or breaking the mission system if you ever wish to go Green Ranger to White Ranger lmao.

**Celeste Vagarosa** · Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:35 pm

Guild :

Grimoire Heart

Jewels :

475,000

Rank :

C-Rank

Experience :

50,550

Class :

Adventurer

Strength :

4

Speed :

12

Endurance :

3

Intelligence :

2

Mana :

500

Weapon :

Beginner's Steel Spear

Agree'd, plus by S-Rank you'd surely be known so were does that recognition go?

**Arthur J. Sokolov** · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:01 pm

Guild :

Guildless

Jewels :

100,000

Rank :

C-Rank

Experience :

42,500

Class :

Beastmaster

Magic :

Handbeat Magic

Strength :

2

Speed :

2

Endurance :

17

Intelligence :

13

Mana :

750

Weapon :

Beast Behavior

Companion :

Noibat

Yes this please. That is the exact way I want to go with this character, keeping the bad but trying to overcome it with good.

**Naga** · Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:15 am

Hello,

I believe this is already the case. Fame is determined by Fame minus Infamy, while Infamy is determined by Infamy minus Fame. A mage in Fairy Tail however can't obtain Infamy via quests (maybe via other methods) and therefore will have a high amount of Fame even after deduction of possible Infamy obtained elsewhere.

This means that when a Guildless mage enters Fairy Tail and they have 3000 Fame and 2000 Infamy, they will keep both values. It doesn't change. They just won't be able to get Infamy via quests anymore. In short: the fact that mages in Fairy Tail can't obtain Infamy via quests doesn't mean the Infamy value does not exist for them. The calculation for Fame and Infamy shows that.

**Erebus2** · Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:22 am

Epithet :

Mortal Coil

Guild :

Sentinel Syndicate

Jewels :

1,017,000

Rank :

A-Rank

Race :

Zombie

Experience :

251,750

Reputation :

7,700

Class :

Spellhowler

Strength :

90

Speed :

21

Constitution :

113

Endurance :

62

Intelligence :

1

Mana :

2,625

My case was that what if an endgame villain with 6000+ infamy turns good, they can't get fame anymore? Because wouldn't it imply that the infamy only dwindles and they never get fame from their good deeds? They just slowly become less and less known about anymore?

**Naga** · Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:33 am

It depends, sometimes Fame is required and sometimes Infamy is required for something. I'm not quite sure what you're saying in your post though.

**Erebus2** · Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:42 am

Epithet :

Mortal Coil

Guild :

Sentinel Syndicate

Jewels :

1,017,000

Rank :

A-Rank

Race :

Zombie

Experience :

251,750

Reputation :

7,700

Class :

Spellhowler

Strength :

90

Speed :

21

Constitution :

113

Endurance :

62

Intelligence :

1

Mana :

2,625

Shouldn't a person be able to stack both, not take away from the other if they switch sides. What I'm implying is it kinda makes no sense to deduct whereas they should just retain both, no?

**Naga** · Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:46 am

You do keep both but your Fame is Fame minus Infamy because the bad deeds you've done take away from the good deeds you have done, and your Infamy is Infamy minus Fame because they good deeds you've done take away from the bad deeds you've done.

**Erebus2** · Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:52 am

Epithet :

Mortal Coil

Guild :

Sentinel Syndicate

Jewels :

1,017,000

Rank :

A-Rank

Race :

Zombie

Experience :

251,750

Reputation :

7,700

Class :

Spellhowler

Strength :

90

Speed :

21

Constitution :

113

Endurance :

62

Intelligence :

1

Mana :

2,625

I think I get it now. Understood then.

**Faust Noire** · Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:20 am

Guild :

Grimoire Heart

Jewels :

125,000

Rank :

C-Rank

Race :

Lycan

Experience :

40,000

Class :

Sorcerer

Magic :

Blood Magic

Strength :

15

Speed :

2

Endurance :

2

Intelligence :

1

Mana :

525

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