Spells plus strength?

**Atlas Prime** · Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:43 pm

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I was wondering since it seems like we don't do this. So for a example: Say I have water magic. I use magic to form a water orb around my hand and punch someone with it. It would deal D-rank damage since its a D-rank spell. Just that.

I was thinking that if its a spell that makes sense to use strength then we add strength. So since I use magic to coat my hand with water (being offensive spell, not a buff) wouldn't you think this would deal D-rank damage + my strength stat. I know we wont get in like 1.5 stats, but if its a D-rank offensive spell like that with a 1 strength which is D-rank, should it deal C-rank damage?

Hope this makes sense.

**Celeste Vagarosa** · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:11 pm

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I agree, if your using a spell as such that requires your own hands/weapon to carry out your strength stat should be included.

Selena Maelstrom · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:28 pm

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well it would depend on the size of the orb. I'm not sure how to phrase it but I'll try.

As long as the water and the hand or whatever the water is coating hit's it's mark then both the spell damage and the Strength damage should be applied. The size of the spell is key because if it is 1m3 around the hand and someone is hit by it, more than likely they'd only get hit by the water, because then they could react.

Hope that helped!

**Roman** · Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:33 pm

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It does the damage of the spell. And also depends on the wording of the hit. Cause if you have the spell at the tip of the fist and it happens before the fist contacts then sure. You would get the spell damage + the physical strike. It is all dependent on how you attack.

**Noel** · Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:02 am

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Have you ever considered wording it like this;

Connecting a hit with the magic-water formed around the users fist increases the outputted damage by a single D rank.

If it's not really clear what D rank damage really does, one should refer themselves to the endurance list I guess.

**Caius** · Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:40 am

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I see weapon damage in the shop is

base strength + weapon strength

Wouldn't it be the same concept will spell made melee weapons

base strength + melee spell damage

**Tenshi †** · Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:06 pm

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Spells are restricted by the users own wording, and the site will not alter its regulations. If you have a D rank orb around your fist that deals D rank damage, than it does D rank damage. If you have a D rank orb around your fist that enhances your damage by D rank, than it is your strength plus your spell. That's why we specifically distinguish buffs and other spells to enhance your capabilities, and offensive spells to be separate. If you do not have a buffing magic capability and wish to bypass this with offensive magic, that gets into very iffy territory.

**Mortal Ravana Strung** · Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:40 am

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Generally, my view on this would be; simply just apply fair usage in a roleplaying and have it treated as two separate attacks even though they would technically be micro-seconds apart. But remember your spell hitting them would create force increasing the gap between your fist and your target. Other than that your have to use buffing.